Attempts to write about the art of Tianzhuo Chen are bound to fail. They end in a buzzword thunderstorm that sounds something like this: pan-asian-shamanic-hyper-digital-queer-performance-ritual. A lot of labels trying to describe what you have to have experienced. Because Chen’s performances have a critical element: ourselves. So, instead of staying with the habitus of the savvy art expert, it’s a matter of immersing yourself in Chen’s world. Switch off the brain hemisphere influenced by scholastic delusions of interpretation and enter into pure experience. From this point of view, this interview will hardly offer any added value, but after his performance “Trance” we were able to get to know Chen’s way of working and his artistic attitude in a conversation with him. So who is this guy who sent us through all possible emotional stages for eight hours? tell me